Legislature(2017 - 2018)CAPITOL 106

01/23/2018 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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03:04:32 PM Start
03:05:40 PM Presentation: Role of Contraceptive Coercion in Domestic Violence
03:35:45 PM HB162
04:05:55 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Presentation: Invited Testimony Relating to TELECONFERENCED
HB 25 by:
- Rep. Claman, Sponsor
- Michelle Overstreet, Founder & Exec. Dir., My
House, Wasilla
- Ginny Walsh, Program Coordinator, Arctic Women
in Crisis, Utqiagvik
- Danielle Campoamor, New York City, NY
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
*+ HB 162 DHSS CENT. REGISTRY;LICENSE;BCKGROUND CHK TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
        HB 162-DHSS CENT. REGISTRY;LICENSE;BCKGROUND CHK                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:35:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ announced that the  final order of business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO. 162,  "An Act  relating to criminal  and civil                                                               
history requirements  and a registry regarding  certain licenses,                                                               
certifications, appeals, and authorizations  by the Department of                                                               
Health  and  Social  Services; and  providing  for  an  effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:36:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STACIE  KRALY,   Chief  Assistant  Attorney   General,  Statewide                                                               
Section  Supervisor,  Human   Services  Section,  Civil  Division                                                               
(Juneau), Department of Law, offered  a brief overview of HB 162.                                                               
She noted  that participation  in many  federal programs  such as                                                               
Medicaid and  foster care required  that states  conduct criminal                                                               
background  checks  before  licensure or  payment  for  services.                                                               
Department  of   Health  and  Social  Services   has  been  doing                                                               
background checks for  many years, and, in  2005, the Legislature                                                               
passed a bill  which codified a background check  process for all                                                               
persons who were  paid for in-whole or in-part  by the Department                                                               
of Health and  Social Services, as noted in AS  47.05.300.  Since                                                               
then, the background check was conducted  in two parts:  first, a                                                               
fingerprint  based  criminal  history  check for  all  state  and                                                               
federal  criminal  offenses; second,  a  civil  history check  of                                                               
various  data bases,  some  federal  and some  state.   This  was                                                               
required for anyone applying to be  a foster parent or a personal                                                               
care attendant,  among others.   She reported that  several gaps,                                                               
overlaps, and  inconsistencies had been identified  and addressed                                                               
through the  regulatory process.   The remainder of  these issues                                                               
needed to be fixed in statute.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:38:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KRALY explained  that  the proposed  bill  clarified that  a                                                               
civil history check  was a check of  already existing registries,                                                               
and  that  a  stand-alone  registry or  database  was  not  being                                                               
created as  it was  not operationally or  fiscally feasible.   It                                                               
also clarified  that background checks were  required of licensed                                                               
entities, as well  as the owners and the workers.   She said that                                                               
the proposed  bill further renamed  the two  existing registries,                                                               
one of  which was currently  called the central registry  and the                                                               
other was called the centralized  registry.  These two registries                                                               
would  be renamed  the civil  registry and  the child  protection                                                               
registry.   She added that  the proposed bill made  amendments to                                                               
AS 47.32,  the licensing provisions  of the Department  of Health                                                               
and Social Services.   She explained that  this allowed licensing                                                               
investigators   to  share   licensing  investigations   with  law                                                               
enforcement  when  there  were concurrent  investigations.    She                                                               
added  that  another  change  would  allow  the  three  licensing                                                               
divisions to share information.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:41:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KRALY  stated   that  this  would  allow   the  division  to                                                               
investigate individuals who were  accused of abusing, neglecting,                                                               
or exploiting an individual in care.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:42:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KRALY  paraphrased from the  Sectional Analysis  [Included in                                                               
members' packets], which read:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1. This section  would make conforming edits to                                                                  
     rename the  centralized registry to the  civil registry                                                                    
     to  avoid  confusion under  the  current  law with  the                                                                    
     centralized  registry (AS  47.05.330)  and the  central                                                                    
     registry in AS 47.17.040 (see section 14).                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Sections  2  and  3.  These  sections  would  amend  AS                                                                  
     47.05.310(d) and  47.32.310(d) to clarify  that barrier                                                                    
     crimes apply to individuals as well as entities.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4. This section  would amend AS 47.53.310(e) to                                                                  
     allow an  individual to seek a  background check; under                                                                    
     the  current law  only entities  can seek  a background                                                                    
     check. This  section would also remove,  at the request                                                                    
     of the Department of Public  Safety, the designation of                                                                    
     the Department of Health and  Social Services (DHSS) as                                                                    
     a   criminal  justice   agency  for   purpose  of   the                                                                    
     background check program.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5.  This section would  amend AS  47.05. 310(f)                                                                  
     to  make it  clear that  the DHSS  may, in  addition to                                                                    
     exceptions to  the barrier crime provisions,  approve a                                                                    
     variance for a barrier crime.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6. This section  would amend AS 47.05.310(h) to                                                                  
     address  how   a  non-licensed  provider,  such   as  a                                                                    
     relative  who is  receiving payment  by  the Office  of                                                                    
     Children's  Services,  is  treated under  the  statute.                                                                    
     This   amendment  would   make  it   clear  that   such                                                                    
     providers,  while not  being paid  by  DHSS, are  still                                                                    
     subject to background checks prior to placement.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7.  This section would  make a  conforming edit                                                                  
     to AS  47.05.310(i) to rename the  centralized registry                                                                    
     to the civil registry (similar to section 1).                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 8. This  section would add a new  section to AS                                                                  
     47.05.310 to  address immunity  from civil  or criminal                                                                    
     liability  for reporting  during  the background  check                                                                    
     process.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section  9.  This  section   would  provide  a  similar                                                                  
     framework for  the civil registry checks  as background                                                                    
     checks  (see AS  47.05.310). This  means that  the same                                                                    
     process  applies to  a person  who is  found to  have a                                                                    
     barring criminal conviction under  AS 47.05.310 as well                                                                    
     as a barring civil finding under AS 47.05.330.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section  10.   This  section  would  be   repealed  and                                                                  
     reenacted  to outline  how the  department will  review                                                                    
     existing  registries, rather  than  create yet  another                                                                    
     separate  database. This  section  would also  identify                                                                    
     what  DHSS  will  be  looking for  in  terms  of  civil                                                                    
     findings  that  are   inconsistent  with  licensure  or                                                                    
     payment (e.g., CINA findings,  terminated from DHSS for                                                                    
     assaultive/neglectful   or    exploitative   behavior).                                                                    
     Information  contained  or  obtained via  the  registry                                                                    
     would  be  confidential and  not  subject  to a  public                                                                    
     records request.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  11.  This  would amend  the  current  immunity                                                                  
     section to  reflect the change  to civil  registry from                                                                    
     centralized registry.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section  12.  This would  establish  a  new section  to                                                                  
     address the ability to seek  a variance for any finding                                                                    
     under this chapter and how  to appeal a decision if you                                                                    
     disagree with any decision made by DHSS.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 13.  This section  would amend  AS 47.05.390(6)                                                                  
     to  expand  the  definition  of entity  to  include  an                                                                    
     individual service provider.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section  14.  This  section would  rename  the  central                                                                  
     registry  maintained   by  the  Office   of  Children's                                                                    
     Services  to the  child  protection  registry to  avoid                                                                    
     confusion.  It also  clarifies  what  is maintained  on                                                                    
     this registry,  including substantiated  findings under                                                                    
     AS 47.10 or AS 47.17.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section  15. This  new  subsection  would clarify  that                                                                  
     before  a substantiated  finding can  be placed  on the                                                                    
     child  protection registry  the person  must have  been                                                                    
     afforded notice  of the finding and  the opportunity to                                                                    
     challenge the finding.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 16.  This section would make  a conforming edit                                                                  
     to AS 47.32.010(c)  replacing centralized registry with                                                                    
     civil registry (similar to section 1).                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section  17.  This  section would  amend  AS  47.32  to                                                                  
     provide authority  for DHSS  to consider  prior adverse                                                                    
     licensing findings  in determining whether to  grant or                                                                    
     deny a  license or  whether to place  a condition  on a                                                                    
     license.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 18.  This would  add a new  section to  make it                                                                  
     clear  that  when  there  is   an  allegation  that  an                                                                    
     employee  or  individual  affiliated  with  a  licensed                                                                    
     entity is alleged to have  engaged in any behavior that                                                                    
     would impact the  safety or welfare of  a resident, the                                                                    
     department may investigate that  individual and issue a                                                                    
     report  on the  findings  of  that investigation.  This                                                                    
     section  would further  provide  that if  a finding  of                                                                    
     abuse  or neglect  is substantiated  then that  finding                                                                    
     will  be part  of the  civil registry  process and  may                                                                    
     result in a person  being prohibited from employment or                                                                    
     licensure in  the future. This section  would also make                                                                    
     it clear  that before such  a finding can be  used, due                                                                    
     process must be afforded.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 19.  This is technical  fix that  would clarify                                                                  
     when formal  hearings are required when  an enforcement                                                                    
     action is taken after a licensing investigation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 20.  This would  add a  new section  to clarify                                                                  
     that  that  when  law enforcement  is  investigating  a                                                                    
     crime  that   is  also  the  subject   of  a  licensing                                                                    
     investigation,  the material  gathered by  DHSS may  be                                                                    
     shared with the law enforcement as a matter of law.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section  21.  This  section   would  clarify  that  all                                                                  
     divisions who implement AS  47.32 may share information                                                                    
     with each  other for the  purpose of  administering the                                                                    
     licensing programs at DHSS.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section  22. This  section  would  repeal reference  to                                                                  
     provisions  of  the  current law  that  are  no  longer                                                                    
     necessary or  have been  determined to  be superfluous.                                                                    
     Specifically,  the section  would repeal  the reference                                                                    
     to the  civil registry  when doing a  background check,                                                                    
     references  to DHSS  as  criminal  justice agency,  and                                                                    
     statutes  stating  an  administrative  hearing  is  not                                                                    
     required when  the enforcement action sought  is a plan                                                                    
     of correction.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section  23.  This  is  an  applicability  section  for                                                                  
     purposes of applying the  criminal and civil background                                                                    
     checks before, on  or after the effective  date of this                                                                    
     act.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section  24.  This  section would  advise  the  revisor                                                                  
     regarding title  changes to reflect amendments  in this                                                                    
     act, including the change to  include the civil history                                                                    
     registry.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 25.  This provides  for an  immediate effective                                                                  
     date.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:50:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  directed attention  to Section 20  of the                                                               
Sectional  Analysis  and asked  how  it  would work  for  sharing                                                               
information between multiple investigations.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KRALY, in  response, said that the  most obvious circumstance                                                               
was a crime  committed at a licensed entity, such  as an assisted                                                               
living  home,  resulting in  an  immediate  response by  multiple                                                               
agencies and  a concurrent investigation.   Currently, in  such a                                                               
case, law enforcement would ask  for the licensing files although                                                               
the provisions  that were confidential  could not be  shared even                                                               
though there was an ongoing criminal investigation.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:51:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO expressed his concern  for privacy.  He mused                                                               
that it  was necessary to attain  a formal legal document  to get                                                               
information,  and, as  this document  would  have provisions  for                                                               
accountability,  the individual  receiving  information would  be                                                               
aware of  the confidentiality and  privacy requirements  for this                                                               
information.    He  asked,  if   this  privacy  requirement  were                                                               
removed,  who   would  ensure  that  the   individual  requesting                                                               
information was accountable.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:53:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KRALY,  in response, explained that  confidential information                                                               
existed throughout the Department  of Health and Social Services,                                                               
although she was not aware of how the DHSS dealt with this.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:54:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KITO expressed  his  concern  that any  situation                                                               
which  authorized   "more  eyes  to  see   particular  pieces  of                                                               
information" was "making the opportunity  for the release of that                                                               
information increase."  He asked to  ensure that, as there was no                                                               
side  of   accountability  for   individuals  to   request  legal                                                               
documents,  there  were  provisions  in  place  to  maintain  the                                                               
privacy and confidentiality.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:54:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARGARET BRODIE, Director, Director's  Office, Division of Health                                                               
Care Services,  Department of Health and  Social Services (DHSS),                                                               
explained  that  the  department  had  many  different  types  of                                                               
security, that the  background check was from  the Federal Bureau                                                               
of Investigation  (FBI), and this was  all contained in a  log to                                                               
ensure that "people  have only gone where they need  to go."  She                                                               
reported  that should  any  document be  missing,  this would  be                                                               
reported  to  the Office  of  the  Attorney  General and  to  the                                                               
Department   of  Public   Safety.     She  added   that  a   full                                                               
investigation  would be  conducted through  Department of  Health                                                               
and Social Services  and the "state's IT office," as  well as the                                                               
Department  of Public  Safety and  the FBI.   The  Office of  the                                                               
Attorney General would "wrap it all up."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KITO  asked   if  the  individual  accountability                                                               
procedures were applicable  if "we remove the  firewall of having                                                               
to  request  information  from   another  silo  through  a  legal                                                               
process."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRODIE  replied that there  were still the  same requirements                                                               
and accountability.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:56:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  (alternate) asked,  "How many  bad apples                                                               
are  now  slipping through  the  cracks...  how many  people  are                                                               
getting  licensed  that  having  more  consistent,  broader,  and                                                               
efficiently  applied  licensing  background checks  is  going  to                                                               
fix."   He  requested a  description  of the  seriousness of  the                                                               
problem.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRODIE, in response, explained  that if an individual had any                                                               
finding in  their background check,  they were  denied clearance.                                                               
She  noted that  they could  then go  through a  variance process                                                               
involving all the  divisions within the Department  of Health and                                                               
Social  Services to  show mitigating  circumstances and  to allow                                                               
explanations for  why this finding was  no longer an issue.   She                                                               
explained that  this explanation was  reviewed by a  committee, a                                                               
recommendation  was   made  to  the  division   director,  and  a                                                               
recommendation was then brought to the commissioner.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:58:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER (alternate)  asked  Ms.  Kraley how  many                                                               
people this bill would catch.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. KRALY offered some individual  statistics for FY17, reporting                                                               
that 23,175 individuals submitted  information for the background                                                               
check  process  at  DHSS.    Of those,  about  3.2  percent,  556                                                               
individuals, had  barring conditions.  Of  these 556 individuals,                                                               
185  individuals  had  requested   variances  and  158  of  those                                                               
individuals had received approval for variance.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER (alternate) asked  how big was the problem                                                               
that was being addressed by the proposed bill.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KRALY acknowledged  that there  was not  a problem  for that                                                               
purpose, as  those with  criminal and  civil histories  that were                                                               
inconsistent with licensure and had  a predictive factor for use,                                                               
neglect, or exploitation were being  identified.  She opined that                                                               
the program, as it was  designed, worked exceptionally well.  She                                                               
declared that  the proposed  bill was designed  to clean  up some                                                               
language and  some confusion  within the  statute and  within the                                                               
process,  so this  was more  understandable  for the  applicants.                                                               
She  added  that  this  allowed   a  clean-up  for  language  and                                                               
identified  gaps.     She  noted  that  these   issues  had  been                                                               
identified many years earlier.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:01:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER (alternate) pointed  out that this was not                                                               
a  huge problem  that  needed  to be  addressed  although it  was                                                               
making a system work better.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:01:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR  asked about the limitations  to the multiple                                                               
state data bases for integrated information sharing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:03:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KRALY said  that efficiency was a good topic  although it was                                                               
beyond the  scope of the proposed  bill.  She explained  that the                                                               
criminal  background checks  were performed  by stand-alone  data                                                               
bases, and she opined that these  were not integrated and did not                                                               
access each other.   She stated that the data  bases accessed for                                                               
civil  history  purposes  were civil  findings  unless  you  were                                                               
convicted  of  Medicaid fraud.    She  declared that  these  were                                                               
efficient registries although they were not interactive.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:05:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ said that HB 162 would be held over.                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 162 Fiscal Note DHSS-HCS 01.22.18.pdf HHSS 1/23/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 2/20/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 162
HB162 Governor Transmittal Letter 1.22.18.pdf HHSS 1/23/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 2/20/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 162
HB 162 Fiscal Note DPS-SS 01.22.18.pdf HHSS 1/23/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 2/20/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 162
HB162 Sectional Analysis ver A 1.19.18.pdf HHSS 1/23/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 2/20/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 162
HB162 Supporting Document-FAQs on Background Checks 1.19.18.pdf HHSS 1/23/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 2/20/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 162
HB162 Supporting Documents-Proposed Background Check Process 1.22.18.pdf HHSS 1/23/2018 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 2/20/2018 3:00:00 PM
HB 162